Thank you we got this fixed!

That’s great! This will be a very useful plugin indeed. I gave it a try and works just as you’ve described. Thanks! John

However, if indeed you always have all the information you need in Score Info, you might find the downloadable Distribute Score Info plugin (http://www.sibelius.com/download/plugins/index.html?plugin=100, category Text) useful.

It will look for system text objects like title and composer in the first few bars, and it it finds them it will replace the contents with a wildcard for the appropriate Score Info field. If there is no system text for a desired Score Info field, it creates one.

So in your case, if the fields are all gone, you can run the plugin and it will put the text items back into the first bar. It does only work if the data is in Score Info, but it works great there. You can run it on the open score or on a folder of scores as well.

Hi Bob, Thanks for the kind words and for the plugins! I work in panorama view until I’m ready to format the score. So what happened to me a few times is, I’m several hours into the score and decide to delete a number of bars at the top of the score, including bar 1. I do a system selection and hit delete without thinking about it. Since I’m not seeing the Title, composer, footers etc in panorama, there is no visual cue that all of that is missing. Then several hours later when I go to format the score I flip out of panorama into page view and then I realize all that is missing. The quick fix, is to open a blank score template or manuscript and system select bar 1 then filter just the page text using the advanced filter, copy. Go to the score I’m working and paste into bar 1. This gets everything back and if you are using the score info window and wildcards (which I always do) everything is back to normal in one step!

Best,
John

Thanks for a well-written explanation of how to accomplish something useful with a plugin.

I note that when you delete the first bar and the title disappears, it is pretty easy to tell something has gone wrong. But when you add bars (especially just 1 bar) to the start of the score, so the title and other system text are now attached to bar 2, things can look right in the full score, but you might have problems in some of the parts.

Any part that starts with empty bars that include the bar the system text is attached to will start with a multirest that will hide the system text.

As an example, create a piano score and add the title to bar 2 but add no notes. Go to the part window for the piano, and you will see a multirest with no title. Extrapolate this to an orchestral score where some instruments start late, and this happens all the time.

So a good rule is to be sure that the title, composer, copyright, and other initial text are attached to bar 1 at all times. Use the plugin or cut and paste to accomplish this. This will save you grief when you have handed out the parts you quickly printed at rehearsal!

Thanks again for the tutorial, John.